I'm tired of this shit.

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Submitted by SystemReject on Mon, 02/12/2007 - 7:52pm.
SystemReject
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So I get home from school today and am relaxing, eating a snack and watching T.V. when my mom walks in and starts yelling at me about how my grades are not what they should be and i need to get them up. I have to listen to this shit all the time from my parents and it's really starting to drive me crazy. Add the college counseling meetings I just started where I get to hear about how important my grades and education is and I'm about ready to kill someone.

I don't want to go to college, if it were up to me I wouldn't even be in high school right now. I'm so tired of everyone pushing me to do well in school because if I don't do well now I won't get into a good college, and if I don't get into a good college I won't be able to get a good job, and if I don't get a good job I wont be able to raise a family and I'll end up living in a cardboard box under an overpass.

Well FUCK THAT! I'm gonna do what I want with MY life. I would much rather hitchike around the hountry or become a squatter than end up becoming another mindless ant in our society who only lives to make money and raise a fmaily. I'd actually rather get the hell out of this country all together.

Even if I do end up being forced into going to college by my parents, I'm gonna study what I want, which is philosophy and religion. Now just the mention of that has people jumping down my throat saying how I'm not gonna be able to make a decently paying career out of that. WHAT THE FUCK?! WHY THE HELL DO PEOPLE NOT GET IT?! I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT MAKING MONEY!! Why should I anyway? so I can spend all my time contributing to a society that has done nothing but corrupt and opress people for years? As a matter of fact, I believe the world would be better off if a monetary system was never put in place in the first place. It's such bullshit how EVERYTHING is about money now. You go to school to get a good job to make a lot of MONEY. And nothing can be done today without the use of MONEY. What the hell kind of bullshit it that?! You have to fucking pay to LIVE?! That just doesn't make any fucking sense.

I don't know how much more of this bullshit I can take. I'm seriously considering leaving for "school "one day and just not going home. I know, "running away won't make yourproblems go away" I've heard that bullshit before. But I just don't know what the fuck to do anymore. I'm done with all this shit, but I can't get out and it's pissing me off. FUCK!



Mon, 02/12/2007 - 11:02pm
nick
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dolla dolla bills yall

Hey! welcome back!

The most immediate advice I can give you is don't kill anyone and don't runaway.

With that said, I basically agree with a lot of the stuff you said... money doesn't matter as much as people will lead you to believe, and neither does school. I don't know if your parents are up for it or what the regulations are like where you live but the GED is really a good alternative and middle ground between finishing school and running away. I got one and I'm doing ok. I don't live in a cardboard box at least.

I can tell you from experience that running away from home will make your problems go away, but the problems that replace them are definitely worse. Being cold and hungry is no joke, you also start getting bitter and hateful really quick, and you eventually realize that you were more free when you were in school than you are on the streets or in a squat, where you are constantly being picked on by police.

I don't think leaving this country will help. First of all, America's just as fucked up as most of the other first-world countries and you definitely won't be happy hopping on a plane to a third-world country. I think the worst thing about America is how it exploits and destroys other countries to make itself rich, but if you're looking to escape from authority, money and oppression it's too late - the whole world's been poisoned.

Anyway, I had a similar set of ideas in my head a while ago and I ended up getting sent to a really fucked up place for a year and a half, so keep in mind that it can always get worse... i guess that's not that comforting, but make sure it doesn't happen to you.

On a positive note, you don't have that much more school to get through (I don't know what grade you're in but if you're going to college counseling you must be pretty far) and college is your decision, not your parents'. There's stuff you can do with philosophy and theology to make money, and even if there's not, you can work shitty jobs every couple of months until you figure out something else. A lot of kids do that - I do that. It's not as expensive to live as your parents make it out to be, what's gets expensive is if you decide to have a family.

If it's possible, I would go the route of proving to your parents that what you want to do is important and that you really care about it. If they really can't see past the financial thing, then oh well. They should support you.

I'd also recommend deferment if you want to see what it's like living without school or parents. You're close enough to being 18 to not have to run away. I hated hitch hiking when I did it, cause you gotta stand on highways surrounded by SUVs and pickup trucks and pass thru all these fucking strip malls all the time, state troopers yell at you, you gotta sleep in a bunch of bushes and get eaten by mosquitoes... take all the shit you hate about america and compress it into one activity and you get hitch hiking. Squatting's not bad if you have electricity and stuff, but not having heat sucks and chances are you'll get evicted.

I'm not saying don't do that stuff, it's important to explore, but don't be fooled by Days of War, Nights of Love and against me! lyrics, there's definitely tons of bullshit waiting for you for any kind of lifestyle you choose, so be prepared.

I guess my advice is just get through high school, or get a GED, defer for a year, see what your life ends up like, decide if you even need college at all, then do whatever you like. I know it's not that simple, but that's the best I got without really understanding that much about your situation.



Tue, 02/13/2007 - 12:52am
mRg (not verified)
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C.R.E.A.M.

Holy Mary mother of God! You see, I always knew Nick was special. I've always had this weird knack for getting inside people's heads, seeing behind their eyes (probably from a childhood where everyone was trying to get into mine) and I knew he and I were cut from the same cloth, albeit in different patterns;)

Anyway, what I'm trying to say is...he's a pretty smart cookie...and he's been there...and he is real. Honestly, I was worried about what kind of response you would get, but you've just been served a succulent stew chock full of reality and reason. Yum it up!

I would only toss in a couple more spices like: having a college degree, a good job, and a family do not in and of themselves make one a mindless ant, just like not having these things doesn't mean you won't be one. Not that I'm saying you should give those things a shot if you don't want to. Those things are certainly not right for everyone. And this gets to my point. No matter where you find yourself in life. Never forget that there is a whole big world out there, full of life and love, heartache and horror, full of opportunity and oppression. There are so many different people in this world doing so many different things, you cannot allow yourself to simply settle for anything. What I mean is: don't ever think there is only one option for you, only one way of doing things and that you will get locked into that.

-Michael



Tue, 02/13/2007 - 12:45am
kid_prototype
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good to have ya back...

even though yr feeling pissed and crappy.
I've felt the same ways before and thought through many of the same options that you're considering right now. In my case, my parents (especially my mom) were pushing me real hard to go to college. I had some pretty different ideas about what i wanted to do after high school, sitting in classrooms for 4 yrs was at the bottom of the list.

My mom pushed and pushed and did a lot of work on the application process, and i ended up getting accepted to the CUNY Honors College, a pretty prestigious program that offered free tuition. I'd have to be crazy to not take that, right? I deferred for a year and did the above mentioned squatting and hitchiking and all that, then crunch time came when i couldn't put it off any longer. I wrote my mom this 9 page letter detailing the kind of life i wanted to live and how college and traditional employment wouldn't fulfill those things.She didn't really acknowledge it. So september came and i started riding my bike up to hunter college everyday feeling like a trapped outcast. I'd get into accidents on my way to school and be bleeding in class and shit. i definitely did not fit in. I spent every available minute working on the misled youth network. I started skipping class, and within two months i'd dropped out.

All the adults in my life were shocked and disappointed. At times i doubted myself too. But at this point i think i am moving closer to my goals that i would be as a college student. What i learned is this: You can make someone do something, but if that person doesn't see the value in it, it will ultimately fail. Perhaps it was a good opportunity, but it was at a bad time, externally imposed, and it couldn't work.

As far as you completing high school, it seems to me that you might as well, because yr only a few months away. (you are a senior, right?) I know how much it sucks though. i might not have ever graduated HS if i hadn't ended up transferring to a cool alternative school where i ended up doing really well. The GED is also legit, though it might not be any less time and energy that completing school.

But the bigger question is what you'll do afterwards. Misled Youth is all about creating alternatives and thus having control over yr life. In your case, this may mean trying to envision how yr interests in philosophy, religion, art, etc can manifest into a real life for you. There's a saying, "If you don't plan ahead, then you plan to fail". So having yr own plans will give you the strength to not be controlled by the plans of others. I think that asking for a year off before you look into colleges and really making the most of that year would be wise. Try studying on yr own. Try traveling. try working. Ideally, to really prove that you're on top of your shit, you'd be financially independent.I don't know how hard that is in a smaller town with less opportunities. I know that in my case being financially independent gave me a lot more freedom, including the freedom to make my own mistakes.

So those are some thoughts for now, I am happy to discuss this more and support you however I can.

--sarah



Tue, 02/13/2007 - 1:03am
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sense and sensibility

Wow, OK, so I was gonna say some other stuff, but I tell you, you gotta love those two crazy kids. They are so on time.



Tue, 02/13/2007 - 2:05am
SWAMI
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yo

hey man, they pretty much said it all. but i gotta say in addition, this is why you're here. we have your back and you have ours.

btw, sarah, i didn't know you went to hunter! that's where i'm going. why didn't you take the subway like the rest of us?



Tue, 02/13/2007 - 2:18am
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LMAO

*Rolling around on the floor, laughing* I just had to add this after I read your question to Sarah.



Tue, 02/13/2007 - 4:27pm
xcriteria
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Have you talked about the GED with your parents? What's their reaction?

When I learned about the GED, I made up a proposal to my parents: I would drop out, get the GED, and start college a year early. The agreed, after not taking me seriously for years about wanting to drop out. Anyway... I haven't finished college, but I'm really glad I dropped out of HS and got some experience of it.

Once you're 18, what you do is your choice. In the meantime, if you could convince them, maybe college would be better than high school?

Anyway, good luck figuring something out. Keep us posted. Smiling



Tue, 02/13/2007 - 5:27pm
SystemReject
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Thanks for all the advice

Thanks for all the advice guys. I'm actually only a junior right now so I have a whole other year left. But I think I'll try talking to my parents about taking a year off after HS and see what I can do on my own.



Wed, 02/14/2007 - 11:59pm
kid_prototype
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ok

well if ya need anything let me know...
maybe look into resources in your area or online for studying the topics yr interested in or meeting with like-minded people. I can help research if you like -- that's basically what i do for misled youth anyway. We could do stuff online to keep you from feeling alone/dead like sharing artwork or a reading group or hatching escape plans. Just remember that this is exactly what misled youth is here for, to support youth who feel like the world's not making any space for them. We make our own space.

--sarah

oh and you'd probably love this book:



Thu, 02/15/2007 - 12:31am
SWAMI
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oh

where do you find books like that?

hey reject [sorry, i don't know your real name, i'm matt, hi]

have you ever read "steal this book"? i may get shit from others for promoting this book on the basis of its clicheness, but whatever. i find it helpful when i'm pissed and need some weak psychological validation for my actions.

don't worry though, we all have our own problems. if it makes you feel any better, i was terrified of college for a long time. in fact,i waited till feb to put in my applications and i got into all 4 colleges. my overall weighted average was an 88, which is ok. but man, a good guidance counselor can fix a lot of shit. and if you end up not going, not a big deal. both of my parents avoided college and my mom is now the vp of a traveling company.

as long as you're alive, you can make it better. that's my philosphy.



Fri, 02/16/2007 - 8:46pm
ti-bak
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About two months ago

I was determined to go to Costa Rica to work with some good peops I know who run an independent feminist radio station. From there I plan to hitchhike through south america. I wanted to leave school and learn spanish through experiential learning. This decision was inspired after reading "No More Prisons" by William Upski Wimsatt (Definitely check it out.) Two months later, Im still in school and I only have five more months left before graduation. Im not saying you should forget about hitchhiking, traveling and squatting but you also have to consider where you want to be in the next few years. The best thing is just to follow your gut feeling. Although it was the responsible choice not to drop out...I know that if I had followed my plans I wouldnt feel so confined in the few months before summer.

by the way matt, I've read "Steal This Book" I stole it from a Barnes and Noble in my sophomore year. My friend said "Revolution for the Hell of it" is pretty good too. and im going to Hunter in the fall semester, what are you planning on taking?

-Leanne



Sun, 02/18/2007 - 7:33pm
SystemReject
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I have read "Steal This

I have read "Steal This Book" and I'm planning to get "Fuck the System" and "Revolution for the Hell of it" sometime soon.

But anyways, I asked my mom about taking a year off after I graduate and she said if I did that I wouldn't go back, which is probably true. Lately she's been getting more pissed at me because I'm failing history and english, and now she said I'm pretty much grounded for a month which sucks, especially since wrestling season just ended and I finally have some free time.

I don't know what else I can do right now other than wait and see what happens, but I wish there was just some way I could get away from all this.



Sun, 02/18/2007 - 11:32pm
kid_prototype
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well the good thing is

if yr stuck at home you'll at least have time to think. That's the one thing nobody can take away from you. I don't know how the weather is where you live, but here there's snow on the ground. I figure it's a time to collect my thoughts and plan my next moves. You might feel a lot like yr in prison right now. A lot of great leaders like Malcolm X and many others used their time in prison to evaluate their lives, study, write, and get ready to make the most of their freedom when it came. So you at least you have that, and you have people both on the "inside" and the "outside" (or somewhere in between) to give support and advice.

--sarah



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