our new info packet

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Submitted by nick on Fri, 02/16/2007 - 12:59am.
nick
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There was another thread called "materials" that got to the point where we started mapping out a new info packet that will eventually be merged with YELL!'s material to make a split zine (or a 'spleen') that we can distribute at NCOR.

I'm going to reprint my last post here so we can start figuring out the content/structure of the info packet in a place that new-comers should be able to find with ease (also, it'll pop to the top of the active topics list and hopefully revitalize interest).

here it is...

What I'm thinking we need first is an outline. here's what our most recent version of our old one was like:

- mission statement (2 pages)

- explanation/introduction of "Teenage Lobotomy" (3 pages)

- "Lockdown: America Treats its Troubled Youth Like Prisoners" (3 pages)

- personal stories of institutionalization (4 pages)

- "Taking Control and Taking Care of Ourselves: Mental Health and Beyond" (1 page)

- "The Sculpture Shapes the Hands: Creative Expression as a Force for Change" (2 pages, including one page that's just an image)

- "Self-Education [making our own patchworked maps]" (4 pages, one's just an image)

- "Youth Organizing and Activism" (4 pages of solid text)

- "Get Involved" (2 pages)

- "Our Website" (1 page)

This adds up to 28 pages when you add the front and back cover, which comes out to 7 sheets of legal-sized paper folded in half, front and back.

I'm thinking we should do 16 pages this time, a little more than half. My reasoning for this is it needs to be a multiple of four and I don't think 12 is enough. I'm up for suggestions and it's important to discuss this with YELL! since they would have to put together the same amount of pages, since we don't want one organization to overshadow the other.

I also want everything to be entirely new content, flowing from one point to the next.

I don't think we need a mission statement - the whole thing will serve as a mission statement. I think, at best we only need to mention teenage lobotomy, since it's something that's taken such a backseat in the past year or two and it tends to confuse people a little. basically, everything that fits into institutionalization should be one short section. I see it more as a preface to everything else I guess.

then we go into what we think about that approach, and how we think it should really be.

then we move into our three core functions (or what will be our three core functions if we ever get off the ground...) - self-education, collaborative projects and activism (learning things, doing things, changing things). Each gets it's own section.

Then we break the flow (up until this point it's all basically one piece, broken up into sections, with each one not really ending but trailing off into the next), and we go into personal stories. A number of people submitted personal stories on fucked up experiences at institutions, prisons, psych wards and stuff. I'm thinking of using only one, then juxtaposing it with a positive story of someone learning and doing something positive out of being interested rather than coerced.

Then we finish up, just like the last info packet, with get involved/our website.

it's like this:
institutionalization > what we think > self-education > collaborative projects > activism > get involved

or like this:

"A lot of people think abusing and humiliating kids will straighten them out. We think that kids are fully capable of 'straightening out' without being emotionally destroyed, if things like education, creativity and open-mindedness were as attractive as TV, money and drugs. Self-education is really cool because a, b and c. And if you liked self-education, you'll love collaborative projects. And what could be better than makinag a project out of making the world a better place? Here's an example of the fucked up approach. Now here's an example of our wonderful approach. Here's how to start doing all this stuff - blah blah blah, make an account and post on our new drupalized forums (or better yet, help us get outta the alpha project and into beta)".

And Voila! We have our old info packet, shortened, tied together properly, and ready for NCOR. Let me know if you guys think there's stuff I left out, or if my system of going from one point to the next has a kink in it.

Right now I'm questioning whether or not we should even have the personal stories since it breaks the flow and it doesn't really make any new points that we aren't gonna put into the other parts. Then again, sometimes you can explain things a million times but no one gets it until you show them a concrete example. If we do decide to use a personal story, I would want to use a positive one as well as a negative one, and unfortunately all we've got are negative ones... unless someone can contribute one...



Sat, 02/17/2007 - 6:28am
xcriteria
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This sounds good to me. We

This sounds good to me. We could put some personal stories on the web site, and refer to them somewhere in the info packet.

When I first read the old info packet, the personal stories did draw me in and get me interested in how bad things are for some people, but they were also really difficult for me to read for the same reason. I agree that we should have an uplifting personal story if we're going to have depressing one. But again, maybe they could all be on the web site.

Basically, should the info packet/zine's purpose be to draw people to the site, which can then have an array of content that people can browse? (And have a place for them to share their story?)



Mon, 02/19/2007 - 6:29pm
mynweb
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I think you're right...

We should put the personal stories on the website and just lead people to them. I enabled the book module, so we can use that to keep it all organized.

I think that yes, we should definitely all meet - there can be no substitute for that. But don't think that should prevent us from talking about this online. I figure meeting in person is a luxury, most people can only stay a very limited amount of time. If we sort questions like these out online it'll pay off when we meet because we'll already have direction. Many misled-youth meetings were wastes of time (at least from my perspective) because we had lack of direction, even with an agenda all written out.

So, I now think we should just forget the personal story. Although I think that a lot of people are sorta into our info packet but haven't even tried to see our site - often the zine crowd is sorta anti-technology. So maybe we should make this small promotional zine, and make another that's a compilation of personal stories, later down the line. But I think it's better to keep the two separated in either case.

So with that change, is the outline now in place? Or are there still disagreements?

Here's a post so we can plan a local meeting...

-Nick



Sun, 02/18/2007 - 7:29pm
kid_prototype
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Joined: 2006-12-17
working together

I guess the reason I haven't come up with a clear conception of how this thing will look because it's supposed to be a split with YELL, and we haven't gotten to talk with them about it yet. I'm not clear on how our two groups will be related in this info packet. I guess we don't have to follow the same format, we just need to take up the same amount of space. Still I'd like to talk it out with YELL more before we really start writing for it. I think one cool idea would be to have a centerfold that's some kind of poster that represents both out organizations with a cool graphic. Something about our badass VOLTRON-like collaboration.

I also like many of the ideas mentioned above.
Maybe we don't need the personal stories in the info packet (in the interest of keeping it brief), but we should have some kind of about us/how we got started intro thing.

Well I'll try to pull some more people into the conversation and see how this thing takes shape

--sarah



Mon, 02/19/2007 - 3:06pm
SWAMI
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Joined: 2007-01-25
yeah, but

i still feel that hypothesizing on the internet is not the same as a meeting with them. we should all go to their hq if they have one or they go to your house and we talk.



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